NAACP Urges Boycott After University of Florida DEI Cancellation (Ep. 112) - Counter Thought

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NAACP Urges Boycott After University of Florida DEI Cancellation (Ep. 112)

The NAACP urges black student-athletes to boycott the University of Florida in response to the University of Florida cancelling its DEI office. But are black students actually at-risk?

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The University

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of Florida, the flagship university

for the state of Florida, made headlines

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last week when it completely eliminated

its DEI office.

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Now, this week, the NAACP has said that

it is calling on black college student

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athletes to reconsider their attendance

at these state universities,

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threatening the university system

and Governor DeSantis

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and the Florida legislature

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saying that the removal of this office

and Senate Bill 266,

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which was signed into law last year,

threatens

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the education of minorities.

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But is that really the case?

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Welcome to Counter Thought.

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On Monday of this week,

it was reported by ESPN that the NAACP

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has asked black student athletes

in the state of Florida to reconsider

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their attendance of these college colleges

and universities in response

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to the elimination of the DEI office

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at the University of Florida.

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Now, the history of this decision

by the University of Florida goes back

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to last year in May, when governor

when the Florida legislature,

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sent Senate Bill SB 266

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to Governor

DeSantis desk for signing into law

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and that bill was signed by DeSantis.

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And what that law does

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is that law actually says that it is,

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“prohibits institutions

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from spending federal or state dollars

on discriminatory initiatives

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such as the so called diversity

equity and inclusion

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DEI programs.”

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Now, DEI has been in the news

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for quite some time,

for a few years, actually.

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But last year, the Florida legislature

and Governor

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DeSantis, DeSantis passed the law

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saying that the state of Florida,

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its colleges and universities

and the University of Florida is

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the foremost

is the flagship university in the state

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to eliminate these programs.

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So right off the bat,

the outrage at the University

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of Florida is really misplaced.

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The University of Florida is just

in compliance with the law of the state.

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But those like Emmitt

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Smith,

you may have heard what he had to say.

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Do not believe that that is a good enough

excuse

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because Emmitt Smith

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believes

that there should be a protest of sorts,

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that these black college student

athletes should be on high alert

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because of what the University of Florida

has done, that the University of Florida

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cannot just wiggle its way

out of its responsibility by saying that

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it is, you know,

just remaining in compliance with

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with the law.

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And Emmitt Smith, you may not know,

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is a college football hall of Famer.

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He is in the University of Florida's

football ring of honor.

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He is also a NFL Hall of Famer.

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He was the leading rusher in all of NFL

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history, played for the Dallas

Cowboys, won three NFL championships.

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So his

voice carries some some weight to it.

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He is a legend in college and in the NFL.

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And he said, “I am utterly disgusted

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by UF’s decision

and the precedent that it sets.

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Without the department, the job falls

to the office of the provost,

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who already has their hands full

to raise money for the university

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and continues to advanced academic studies

and athletic programs.

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We cannot continue to believe and trust

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that the team of leaders

all made up of the same background

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will make the right decision

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when it comes to equality and diversity.

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History has already proven

that is not the case.”

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He continues, “Instead of showing

courage and leadership,

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we continue to fail

based on systemic issues.

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And with this decision, UF has conformed

to the political pressures

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of today's time.”

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So Emmitt Smith is not mincing words

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in response to his university's decision.

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Now, one thing

I don't really agree with within

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its statement is the fact that there

needs, the belief that there needs to be

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a DEI office to take something off

the plate of the provost.

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The University of Florida has done

a fantastic job in the last

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10 to 15 years of elevating the university

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from a top 20, top 25 public school

when I was in attendance there.

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I attended from 2004 to 2008

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and the mission there under President

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Bernie Machin was to get Florida

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to be a top 10 public university.

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And we accomplished that.

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And then the next president,

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Kent Fuchs,

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had the goal of getting Florida

to a top five public university

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and achieved that.

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And his term as president ended,

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I believe, two years ago.

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And now Ben Sasse is the current president

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of the University of Florida.

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So Florida, before this

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DEI program,

was already achieving success.

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And it wasn't because they were sitting

here and only admitting white students

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and some would even say white

and Asian American students.

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No, they continued to bring in

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people

who deserve to be there on the merits.

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And sure,

there are still scholarship out there

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that are awarded private scholarships

that are given to individuals.

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I received a scholarship

from a gator club.

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There are other scholarships through,

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you know, different companies

and different clubs that support

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and advocate for minorities

to go to college.

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Like there's there's no issue with that.

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But what the Senate

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bill this this bill, SB 266

that was signed into law

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in May of last year by Governor DeSantis,

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it's similar and kind of in step, in line,

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with the Supreme Court decision

also in last year, also last year

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regarding affirmative action.

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The Supreme Court ruled 6 to 3

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and overturned and eliminated

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affirmative action.

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When it comes to

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colleges and universities,

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the case

before them at the time was a case

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involving

University of North Carolina and Harvard,

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saying that they were unlawfully

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because you cannot discriminate based on,

you know, religion, ethnicity,

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race,

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gender, all of these things.

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You cannot discriminate based upon that

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the country,

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the government cannot discriminate

based upon those things.

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And it was found in that case

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that these universities

were actually doing so.

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So the Supreme

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Court struck down affirmative action,

saying like it is time for this to end.

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A Supreme Court

in the affirmative action had been

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had been in place

for four decades at the time.

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And you go back and Sandra Day O'Connor,

he ruled on, I believe it was:

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case, stated that affirmative action

really only needed

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a lifeline, a lifetime of about 25 years

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from that date.

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And that 25 years is has come.

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Has it has it has arrived

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in affirmative action,

had great intentions.

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Affirmative action was a way to to catch

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black Americans up

for all of the discrimination

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that they've faced for over 100 years.

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All of that discrimination,

all of those setbacks.

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Again, going back

to, you know, legitimate racism,

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putting the thumb on the scale

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so that they could not get ahead.

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But this DEI program and this is not

just at the university level.

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This is also when companies

I come from the corporate world

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and I have seen DEI put into place

at at companies and discussed in actually

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in the current job market, witnessing

this DEI

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is basically a veil

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to disguise

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discriminatory hiring practices.

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Much like affirmative action

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had good intent, DEI,

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in its truest form,

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also has good intentions.

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You want there to be diversity.

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You want there to be inclusion.

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You don't want to exclude people.

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You want people to feel welcomed.

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You want diversity, you want

you want everyone to look the same.

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You don't want everyone to think the same.

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But people have

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turned it to become a way to,

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you know, achieve the outcomes, right,

which is equity.

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And I talked about equity,

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two of this podcast somewhere

between in the first five episodes.

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Go back and listen. It's an audio only.

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I talked about equity versus equality.

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Equality

means that you have the same opportunity

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to succeed, which I believe, and I stated

in that episode that I believe

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in, that there should be equality

starting with your childhood.

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Every child should have

an equal opportunity and a good education.

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But equity

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is about equal outcomes

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and you cannot guarantee equal outcomes.

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Everyone is different.

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Everyone has different skill sets,

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everyone has different drives

and desires, different circumstances.

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You can have twins, right?

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Twin children who grew up in the same

household and have different lives.

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They are not

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both going to become,

you know, have the same profession,

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even just siblings, brother, brother,

sister, sister, brother, sister,

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growing up in the same household

are not going to go on

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and do the same things.

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So when it comes back to DEI,

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it is a way to to give an advantage

to promote

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and hire or promote

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people

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who fit a certain requirement.

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That is

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the that is what DEI is being used

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for in a lot of cases.

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And what tickles me,

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what made me laugh

whenever actually, you know,

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whenever I read the statement

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from the NAACP

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saying that,

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you know, because of this decision

by the University of Florida

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and the law in general

by the state of Florida

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calling on black athletes to threaten

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openly threaten the

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universities, to withdraw themselves

from the universities

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or to go and play elsewhere, saying that

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black athletes are,

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you know,

that the education of black athletes,

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that this might be the only way for them

to actually receive a higher education.

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Let me

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let me read this this to you.

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Black student

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athletes should reconsider

attending public colleges and universities

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in Florida,

said the NAACP president, Charlie Baker,

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on Monday, March 11th,

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says, “This is not about politics.

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It's about the protection

of our community, the progression

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of our culture, and most of all, it's

about your education and your future.”

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It goes on, “While

it is our duty to spread awareness

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and encourage action

around these egregious assaults,

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we also recognize that

protests can come at a price.

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The sad,

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sad reality is for many black student

athletes,

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collegiate sports

may be their sole opportunity at achieving

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the upward mobility necessary

to propel them into their rightful places

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in society.”

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“Florida's rampant

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anti-black policies are a direct threat

to the advancement

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of our young people in their ability

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to compete in a global economy.

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Diversity, equity and inclusion

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are paramount to ensuring equitable

in effective educational outcomes.

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The value black

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and other college athletes bring to large

universities is unmatched.

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If their institutions are unable

to completely invest in those athletes,

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it's time to take their talents

elsewhere.”

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In that last statement,

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“If these institutions are unable

to completely invest

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in those athletes, it's

time to take their talents

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elsewhere.”

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Now, the argument that the NAACP is making

is stating that because of the like,

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for example, this and this is a response

to the University of Florida,

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that because the University of Florida

has eliminated the DEI office,

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they are

making it seem, they want you to believe

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that the current black student

athletes at the University of Florida

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are not going to receive the education

that they would have received

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through that DEI office.

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Mind you, the DEI office

at the University of Florida

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didn't exist until a few years ago.

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And the University of Florida

has been around

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since 1853.

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You know,

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black students, black student

athletes have been there

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for decades.

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Right? Decades.

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We're talking about 60 years or so.

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And there was never a DEI office

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going back to 60 years ago,

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never a DEI office.

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Yet, You know,

these black student athletes for 60 years,

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six decades, still received a quality

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education.

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So they're trying to get it twisted

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and confuse people.

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Confuse you, confuse me, confuse

the black student athletes to lead them

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to believe that they are no longer

going to receive the proper counseling

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for the advancement of their education.

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Now, in my time at University of Florida,

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I worked for the University

Athletic Association.

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That is the separate entity

that is in charge of all of the athletics

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college athletes

at the university of Florida.

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And do you know what the University

Athletic Association has?

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Tutors.

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Tutors.

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They have tutors.

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They have counselors.

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These student athletes,

whether you are black,

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white, Latino, Asian, whatever,

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regardless of your race, your nationality,

you have access

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to these resources.

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Student

athletes at the University of Florida,

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because it is a perennial top five

athletic program,

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have more access to resources

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than your standard college student.

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But the NAACP wants you

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to believe that that is not the case.

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And what's even

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funnier,

and this is really what tickled me

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is that to

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become a student athlete, a college

student athlete, you have to receive

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You are being awarded,

whether it's a scholarship,

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a partial scholarship, walking

on, you know, no scholarship received.

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You are there and on a team

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because of merit,

because of your skill set.

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You are not there to check a box.

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You are there because you have an advanced

level of skill to play at the college

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level and the University of Florida

as a top five perennial

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top five program in all of college

athletics

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is not checking a box

by giving you a scholarship or

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or saying

that you can be a part of a team.

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So the NAACP

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is trying to make the college

black college

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student athlete at the University

of Florida and other state schools.

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The University of Florida,

where they're also receiving scholarships

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because of merit and their skill set.

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They are arguing

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that because they're trying to confuse you

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to make it seem

as if merit was not being rewarded

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as to why those black student athletes

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are at the school in the first place.

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And like I just said, with the resources,

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the University of Florida

gives more resources to student athletes

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than your general standard student

at the University of Florida.

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There are a few hundred student

athletes at the University of Florida,

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and there are dozens of counselors and

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and tutors available to them.

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You know, the ratio,

if I had to guess a ballpark,

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is probably like 1 to 25.

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There are about 40,000 45,000

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students at the University of Florida,

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and there are definitely not 2000 tutors

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and advisers on staff

at the University of Florida.

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But the

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NAACP is trying to get the black student

athletes

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to threaten the university

to pull their their skills and ultimately,

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you know, affect the bottom line,

the money, the revenue

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that these athletic programs bring in

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to try to get the university

to defy the law for the state

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and bring back the DEI office.

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But this is right in line with the NAACP

does.

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You may remember that the NAACP

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going back to last year,

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said that the state of Florida

is, “unsafe”

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for black Americans,

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unsafe.

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And you may remember

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the hilarity of it all

because the NAACP president

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was living in Tampa at the time.

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Tampa, if you are unaware,

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is a major city in the state of Florida.

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And he's saying, the state of Florida is

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is unsafe for for for blacks,

that you are no longer, that you are not

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welcomed in the state of Florida,

which is foolishness.

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They they

they instituted a travel advisory.

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I have it.

I have it right here in front of me.

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I will read it to

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you, “Under its current governor,

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the state of Florida has engaged

in an all out attack on black Americans,

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accurate black history, voting rights,

members of the LGBTQ community,

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immigrants, women's reproductive rights,

free speech, while simultaneously

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embracing a culture of fear, bullying,

intimidation

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by public officials.”

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And then it goes on,

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“Under

the leadership of Governor Ron DeSantis,

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the state of Florida has criminalized

protests, restricted abilities,

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the ability of educators

to teach African-American history

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and engage in a blatant war

against diversity and inclusion.

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Please be advised that Florida is openly

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hostile, openly hostile

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toward African-Americans, people of color

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and LGBTQ plus individuals.

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Before traveling

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to Florida,

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please understand that the state

of Florida devalues and marginalizes

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the contributions of in the challenges

faced by African-Americans and

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other minorities.”

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And then it goes on to,

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please be advised,

public schools...yada yada yada.

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So this call by the NAACP

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in response to the University of Florida

eliminating the DEI office

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and saying that in asking

the black student athletes to threaten

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to leave the university or if they are,

would be an incoming recruiting class

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to not attend the University of Florida

or other state schools

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is right in line with that travel advisory

that the NAACP issued last year.

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While they, literally,

while the president of the NAACP

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was literally living in Tampa.

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And I'm sure his reasoning was like,

you know, I'll be the one to fall

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on the sword, right?

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I'll be the one to stay behind and

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and live over here in beautiful Tampa

while the rest of you,

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you know, flee the state or,

you know, don't even want to come here.

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But this

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DEI elimination by the state of Florida,

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again, is similar to affirmative action,

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is similar to the affirmative action

ruling

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going back to last year.

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And the Supreme Court struck down those

affirmative action programs in colleges

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6 to 3, but left the door open for race

to be considered.

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But not just because, hey,

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X race,

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but in the telling of a story

of how your race

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impacted your upbringing

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and how you overcame it,

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there was a door open there.

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But by a 6 to 3 decision,

the Supreme Court

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eliminated affirmative action.

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And Chief Justice John Roberts

explained that college admission

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programs can consider race merely

to allow an applicant to explain

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how their race influence their character

in a way that would have a concrete

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effect on the university.

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But a

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student must be treated based on his

or her experience as an individual,

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not on the basis of race.

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That is what Chief Justice Roberts wrote.

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DEI, again,

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has good intentions.

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It sounds great.

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Diversity? Yes.

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You want the best outcomes for people?

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Fairness? Sure.

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Inclusion, not exclusionary one? Yes.

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But it is as well intended as it sounds.

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It is not being utilized that way.

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It is not being implemented that way.

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And this is at universities.

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This is at companies,

especially major corporations.

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I'm currently going through a job hunting

process and every single application

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I submit has every job requisition

and then every application

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has a DEI statement and DEI questions.

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Most of them also state

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that they have to ask these questions

because of a federal

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law or mandate.

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And you're going to have a hard time

convincing me,

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especially because the federal government

is involved,

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that your selections on these applications

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are not impacting

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where you are slotted on the rankings of

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for interviews and potential job offers.

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If you want to know all this information,

this information

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is being utilized

and it's not being utilized just to count

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and and analyze who's applying

for what position.

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There are companies out there

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who are using DEI

and promoting individuals

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based on their race or their ethnicity

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or their gender, their sex.

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So DEI is not being used

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for good.

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We need to get back to merits

in this country.

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The argument

one of the arguments about eliminating

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affirmative action,

about eliminating, eliminating DEI,

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these diversity hires.

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Remember, we heard about it

a lot with Ketanji Brown Jackson

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can also say that was the same thing

for Trump's

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appointment with Amy Coney Barrett,

a woman.

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Right?

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Kamala Harris, woman.

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You know, Biden said

that he was going to do that, have a woman

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vice president and went ahead and did it.

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We need to get back to to merit.

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And one of the arguments against,

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you know, making a diversity hire,

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whether it be at the government or a

private company, is that you immediately.

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And Clarence Thomas talks about this.

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You immediately undercut that individual

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saying, they only have the position

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because of their race,

because of their gender,

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because of their sexuality,

their ethnicity.

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You immediately undercut them.

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more people and maybe it's

because of the level

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that they're being hired at, the power

that they have, the clout that they have,

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that they would be

that they would not be okay

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with being hired and being

and having that associated with them.

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Of “you were just a diversity hire.”

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I would get sick and tired

of hearing that.

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You know,

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if someone was like,

I'm only going to hire this guy over here.

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And I had that quality

and I was the one that was hired,

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I would get sick and tired of being told

that I only have that position

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not because I am capable of that position,

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not because of what I accomplished

to earn that position,

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but because of something that

has completely, absolutely nothing to do

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with your position,

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with your accolade.

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So we as the people

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I think, are going to have to start

swallowing some pride here

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and demanding that we that this

this treatment

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and as much as a company

or whomever wants to say, you are

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you are the first this,

you are the first, that

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if that's true, great.

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But me personally, I would not really want

something like that attached to me

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if it's just going to undercut me

in my accomplishment.

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We need to get back to merits and again,

go back to Clarence Thomas.

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He talks about,

you know, if and this has been

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this has been seen in college admissions,

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the lowering of standards

for different races.

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We have heard about that,

especially when it comes to applications

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and acceptance

at Harvard. You know, Asian-Americans

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have to have like the the highest S.A.T.

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rate ranking score

and then whites and blacks.

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And it's it's different

for different levels of race.

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And then as you're admitting people

who are scoring

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lower than what they need to score

to actually attend there,

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you know, you're giving them

a little bit of a handicap.

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And then those individual struggle

at the university

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is because they were not

put in a good situation to succeed.

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They could have gone to a school that was

more suited for their for their scores

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and excelled at those schools

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and then got a better job

and worked their way up

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through their career path to still attain

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the same levels of success.

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But it is nothing

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new that the NAACP came out and is,

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you know, sensationalizing this decision

by the University of Florida.

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And that money is going to be,

you know, it is earmarked,

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it is going to be used to do similar

things, is what the DEI office was doing.

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But it is not going to be

there is no more DEI office.

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We, as the people

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need to get back to

and as a country as a whole,

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get back to rewarding

people based upon merit.

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And will some things seem unfair? Yes.

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If you analyze statistics

about who's being admitted or

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given certain

kind of jobs based on merit alone, is that

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are there going to be

is a correlation or causation?

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Right.

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I know those are that discussion

is going to exist and you'll have people

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who will believe it is causation

and people who believe it is correlation.

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But I firmly believe that if we go

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based off of merit,

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if we go based off of merit,

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then ultimately in due time

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we will everyone will achieve

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greater levels

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of success, not only in today's generation

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in the workforce,

but future generations to come.

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A podcast conserving America's freedom, culture and values.

As a Conservative, I believe America needs to be restored to Conservative principles. This podcast is my dog in the fight.

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I was born and raised in Florida, and currently reside in Orlando! I grew up in a Christian household, and accepted Christ as my Lord and Savior when I was 8 years old then renewed my relationship with Him when I moved to Orlando almost 10 years ago. I am a 2x graduate of the University of Florida--there was never a question if I was going to attend anywhere else! I bleed Orange and Blue. Sports has always been a passion of mine, however, I made room for this podcast to be a new passion as I fight for the freedom, culture and values of America. I hope you enjoy!